LAURA SCHNEIDER interviews JIM FOLEY
Laura: I know you’ve had a lot of success in this short period of time that you've been open; can you tell us about some of the accomplishments that you’re most proud of?
Jim: Well, getting the school open was quite an accomplishment. There was a lot of work that goes with that. So we were happy to get the school opened, approved by the state, and approved by the Cristo Rey network.
Then the next big challenge for us was opening up this building that we’re in now. It was in terrible shape when we bought it. The bones were great, but the building itself had all sorts of issues.
So there was a huge amount of work that needed to be done in this building, and it needed to be done really quickly, because we had to get into this building by our second year. We didn’t have enough space in the building we were in for year one.
Laura: I've heard Cristo Rey’s work study program described as the “secret sauce.” Can you give an overview of that program and the effects that you see it having on students?
Jim: Sure. The program itself originated in Chicago—at the first Cristo Rey School, 25 years ago—to pay for the school, and it paid for about half the cost of school. They very quickly realized (although it wasn't the intention) that having the kids work in a professional environment made a huge difference in their lives. We are a school that's focused on students who are from low income, working class families who don't have a good educational option. And when you take those kids, who, in most cases are the first one in their family who’s going to go to college, and you put them in an environment where they’re rubbing shoulders with professionals, it just has a magical effect. The kids see different professions they didn't even know existed. They see what it takes to be successful, they’re rubbing shoulders with professionals, with college grads… and it just changes their perspective on life. As a result of that, it opens them up to careers, and it allows them to know that the path to that career is a challenging one that involves a lot of hard work and a lot of education. And so it really is our secret sauce.
Laura: Without getting too personal, can you tell me about the backgrounds of some of your students and the challenges that they face?
Well, as I said, our focus—and the focus of all the Cristo Rey schools around the country—is on students from economically challenged families, and families that really don't have the educational options that affluent kids have. The reality is that, if you think about it, God didn't pass out brains based on zip code, but educational opportunity is pretty much in this country based on zip code—where you live. And we want to open that up for kids, to give that opportunity to all the students.
We have a variety of family situations; some that are challenging. A lot of the kids come from single family homes. Some come from great situations at home, and others have challenges—have some baggage that they bring with them. We find that the kids just have some hurdles that they need to get over. They need to have grit to be successful. And that's the thing about them that really inspires me: the fact that they have that grit. And, you know, it's not how many times you fall down, it’s how many times you get back up.
Laura: Your first graduating class has been out of high school a little over a year now, right? What are you hearing from some of those students?
We generally hear from the students that they feel that they're prepared for college academically. We sometimes hear of situations where, because of a problem arising in their family, they need to come back home. It's a really tough situation if you think about it. If you're a kid who's offered college, the first of your family to go to college and from a single parent family, and mom calls you and says, “Hey, I just lost my job. You need to come back home and work at the McDonald’s around the corner to make money to let us pay the rent.” What do you do? Do you drop out of college and give up your dream? Or do you say to mom, “Too bad, figure it out on your own.” There's no good answer. And so those are some of the challenges that our students face.
Laura: The main library is right next door. Do the kids use it a lot?
The kids over there all the time. If you go over to the library after school, you're going to see just dozens and dozens and dozens of Cristo Rey students all over the building. They use it as a place to study. They use it as a place to socialize. They go to the homework help center; they have ACT and SAT preparation courses available there. So it's an enormous educational asset to us. It's impossible to overestimate how huge it is to our existence and our strategy.
Laura: If there was one thing that you could make your students understand before they go to college, something they’d hold onto for the rest of their lives, what would it be?
I’d go back to the word that I used a few minutes ago. “Grit.” I think that that is one of the best predictors of success in life: do you have grit? Do you have that ability to recognize that life is never about success after success after success? There are always going to be challenges; there are going to be failures. You're going to miss the mark occasionally, and that's okay. You learn from those experiences, and you build on that. As the expression goes: it's not how many times you fall down, it’s how many times you get back up. I think that that is one of the best predictors of success in life, and I want all our students to have that. The second piece of advice I would give our kids is: you are here in this school because a lot of people sacrificed for you, and we’re dedicated to your success. And when you become an adult, you have an obligation to pay it forward. You have an obligation to figure out how you can help make the world a better place, and how you can help those that maybe could use a helping hand. If you become wildly successful—if you become a multimillionaire—but you don't do anything to make the world a better place, then you haven't really succeeded in life. I want them to carry that message with them for the rest of their lives.